Heard It Through the Grapevine

Posted by Rob Mahoney on August 6, 2010 under xOther | 3 Comments to Read

  • If you haven’t noticed, I’ve installed the Disqus comment system, which is a much better format for conversation/interaction/response. Sign up for an account if you’d like and if you haven’t already, and play around with the functions and settings.
  • Tom Haberstroh calculated the league’s top bargains by using WARP2 (Kevin Pelton’s updated version of WARP, or wins above replacement player) and contract values. One Mav came up pretty high on the list. It wasn’t Dirk Nowitzki, who is undoubtedly Dallas’ top producer independent of salary. It wasn’t Rodrigue Beaubois, who generated a ton of points on a measly contract. It was frequent scapegoat Jason Kidd, who is a veritable WARP-generating machine.
  • A few follow-ups on yesterday’s post regarding new positional designations: The Thunder (courtesy of Royce Young), the Knicks (courtesy of Seth Rosenthal), and the Rockets (courtesy of Tom Martin). Great player classifications and questions all around.
  • Mark Cuban, on his blog: “What I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys. Some do a decent job of reporting, most just spew opinions.  And those opinions change more often than they brush their teeth. So what the media was saying was of zero impact or influence on what i was going to do. Listening to the media only increases your odds of failing at whatever you are doing.  So I ignore them.”
  • Condolences.
  • Aykis Yerocostas of Pick and Scroll has been profiling the unsung heroes of each NBA team, and his pick for the Mavs is Shawn Marion: “Age and injuries have slowed down the Matrix from his stellar Phoenix days, but he’s still a player that can have a big impact on the court.  He’s a stellar rebounder for his position (career 21.2 DRB%, although only 15.2% last year), and a good defender too.  Last year when he was on the court, Dallas performed 3.3 pp100 better on offense, and 3.5 pp100 better on defense.  His very good FG% comes from his great shot selection, as he tends to take the majority of his shots around the rim or from less than 10 feet.  He’s very good at taking care of the ball (10.6 TOV%), and playing defense without fouling.”
  • Raef LaFrentz, the recipient of one of the worst contracts in recent NBA history.
  • andytobo

    I don't know man, I'm not into Haberstroh any more. His “Melo is not worth a max” column which kept talking about how Melo shoots too much, shoots too many threes, and makes too few of both which I truly don't believe could have been written WITHOUT being aware that Kobe shot more, worse, and scored less was that for me. Is that okay? When statisticians make really stupid points, like Hollinger's failing to note that the Mavs exchanging 2/5 starters made them essentially a different team, statistically, is it okay to choose other people? I can't do the numbers, myself…

    • http://www.thetwomangame.com Rob Mahoney

      @andytobo: Haberstroh's points actually hold up rather well. Anthony had more FGAs both per game and per minute than Bryant, and while he had a slightly better traditional field goal percentage, Kobe's effective field goal percentage (the far more relevant measure for this debate) was noticeably better.

      However, all of this ignores a very basic premise of Haberstroh's argument: Anthony, despite the supposed evolution of his game, is still an incredibly one-dimensional player. Kobe, while maybe not quite the defender his reputation suggests (which is to say, he's not the BEST EVARRR), is still top-notch on that end. He's also the far superior playmaker and the better positional rebounder.

      Is Melo worth the max? It's definitely a matter of opinion, and it depends heavily on perception of the market and your personal valuation of singularly focused scorers. Even if you don't agree with Haberstroh's conclusion, though, he presents his argument intelligently and persuasively. That's what makes him well worth reading, even if you'd give Melo a giant paycheck.

  • andytobo

    I'll take that and mostly just go with it, except to say that Anthony's a pretty good rebounder for an SF and got to the line 9 times a game last year—obviously an offensive category, but still pretty good.

    Obviously, Kobe's better than Melo, and for several other reasons besides your defense point—though I'm not sure I love a stat that rewards Kobe for taking more than 4 threes a game and making less than 1.5. Especially if he's going to claim that Melo takes too many threes(which he made last season at a rate just below Kobe's, and the season before at 37%, better than Kobe's shot since 2002-2003)…